I didn’t know women just dress like whores now?” Gillis said.
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Gillis → know → whores
“Look, I’m sorry, there’s no other way to describe …
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I → look → ?
Have you seen the shorts?
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you → see → shorts
Those neon, they’re like, artificial bait-colored [shorts], and the wrinkles go around the cheeks and all combine at the butthole.
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wrinkles → ’re → butthole
You’re not allowed to look.”
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You → allow → ?
Carvey wasn’t buying the outrage surrounding Gillis’ joke.
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Carvey → buy → joke
Rather than viewing the remarks as an attack on women, the comedian argued that the backlash overlooked a fundamental part of stand-up comedy: saying things that aren’t meant to be taken literally.
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that → view → things
“I just didn’t understand the kerfuffle,” Carvey said. “Only ’cause to me, I just saw it as what we call – I’ll just say it – a joke.
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I → understand → it
Like he didn’t – when you say jokes, you’re not literally saying women are whores.
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women → do → jokes
You are literally joking.
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You → joke → ?
Did I just get canceled?”
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I → cancel → ?
Spade’s assistant and executive producer of the podcast, Heather Santoro, chimed in with a different take, arguing that offensive humor still needs to deliver laughs.
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humor → chime → laughs
“The joke has to be actually funny,” Santoro could be heard saying off mic.
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Santoro → have → mic
“If you’re gonna like call a woman a whore, it’s gotta be funny.
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it → go → woman
Carvey argued that in comedy clubs, he’d bet the joke “destroyed,” but “Saturday Night Live” simply was “not the right place” for it.
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Live → argue → it
“He got some laughs, but, of course, I think he knows that one’s gonna be a button pusher,” Spade noted.
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Spade → get → course
“But he doesn’t care.”
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he → care → ?
“Young, very highly dressed-up young women is the majority of the audience at ‘SNL,'” Carvey conceded.
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Carvey → dress → SNL
“So, All right, Heather, I agree with you.”
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I → agree → you
Spade also called out what he viewed as Hollywood’s double standards, questioning why some people face criticism while others are seemingly off-limits — and suggesting that not every joke or celebrity controversy needs to spark outrage.
“I will say it’s almost comical that there’s people that say, ‘Oh, don’t make fun of OnlyFans.
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that → call → OnlyFans
They need to be respected.’
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They → need → ?
And then everyone hates Sydney Sweeney,” Spade said.
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Spade → hat → Sweeney
“And it’s like, ‘Which one is it?’
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it → ’ → ?
Like, you know what I mean?
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I → know → what
Let’s all decide what we hate and don’t and how about we just relax.”
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we → let → what
“Sometimes people just need to mind their biz,” Spade said.
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Spade → need → biz
“Like, we don’t need to comment on everything.”
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we → need → everything
“We do,” he joked, speaking about himself and Carvey, “because everyone loves that we do.”
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we → do → himself
Carvey suggested that audiences have increasingly blurred the line between finding a joke unfunny and believing it shouldn’t be told at all.
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it → suggest → finding
“It’s the idea of like – there’s two things.
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It → ’ → ?
Joke is not funny, joke offends me – joke should not be allowed to be said,” Carvey explained.
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Carvey → offend → me
Spade, who appeared on “SNL” from 1990 until 1996, explained that the show’s comedians often face a different level of scrutiny when a controversial joke falls flat.
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joke → appear → scrutiny
“I think at ‘SNL,’ If something kills, it gets a pass.
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it → think → pass
If something totally bombs, then they get a lot of trouble,” he noted.
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he → bomb → trouble
“Well, did it kill it at dress [rehearsal]?” Carver questioned.
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Carver → kill → rehearsal
“Oh, I don’t know.
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I → know → ?
I don’t think Shane has talked about it,” Spade added.
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Spade → think → it
“I think he’s that kind of Chappelle where he just does it, and he walks away and then everyone fights over it.”
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everyone → think → it
Conversation
Your voice matters.
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voice → matter → ?
Discussions are moderated for civility.
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Discussions → moderate → civility
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