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Macron tells ABC News' David Muir: 'Hormuz Strait was probably underestimated'

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Deliso, M., Brinberg, C., & Castillejo, E. (2026, September 23). Macron tells ABC News' David Muir: 'Hormuz Strait was probably underestimated'. ABC News (US). https://abcnews.com/Politics/macron-tells-abcs-david-muir-hormuz-strait-underestimated/story?id=136661829

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ABC News (US) · collected 2026-09-23 · by Meredith Deliso, Claire Brinberg, Esther Castillejo

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In an interview with ABC News' David Muir, French President Emmanuel Macron discussed the escalating tensions in the Strait of Hormuz, suggesting it was underestimated as a strategic location. He emphasized the need for the U.S. to address the issue due to its impact on global energy prices and indicated France’s readiness to support efforts to maintain safe transit through the strait without engaging in direct confrontation. Additionally, Macron criticized military interventions for regime change, citing past failures, and addressed his country's decision not to join recent American-led wars.
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In an exclusive interview with ABC News' David Muir on September 22, 2026, French President Emmanuel Macron discussed various global issues including America's conflict with Iran and the energy crisis caused by the closure of the Strait of Hormuz. Macron stated that the strategic importance of the Strait was initially underestimated but now needs to be addressed urgently due to its significant impact on global fuel prices. When asked about a potential military intervention, he clarified that while France is not eager for confrontation, it remains prepared to assist in resolving the issue if necessary. Additionally, Macron shared his views on Vladimir Putin and Russia's escalating threats towards Europe, emphasizing the importance of strategic engagement rather than launching unconsidered wars.

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“The articles report on different statements made by representatives of Iran and France regarding the Strait of Hormuz, not a single shared incident.”
South China Morning Post
⚖️ Leans right Hedges 0 of 7 claims Outlet record 62/100
“The articles describe different aspects of a broader situation involving France's involvement in protecting key Saudi oil infrastructure and discussions about opening the Strait of Hormuz, but they do not clearly refer to the same specific incident or time.”
Al Jazeera
Hedges 0 of 3 claims Outlet record 60/100
“The articles discuss related issues around the Strait of Hormuz but describe different events and times: Macron's interview about a past meeting with Trump, and Iran's recent statement at the UN.”
Dawn
⚖️ Leans left Hedges 2 of 25 claims Outlet record 72/100
“The articles describe different stages of events related to Hormuz Strait but do not report on the exact same incident or time frame.”
National Post
⚖️ Leans left Hedges 2 of 27 claims Outlet record 60/100
“The articles discuss different stages of negotiations and reactions regarding the Strait of Hormuz, with Article A focusing on Macron's initial push for a deal and Article B detailing Iran's resolute stance after Trump's rejection.”
Euronews
Hedges 3 of 29 claims Outlet record 60/100
“The articles describe different aspects of the situation regarding the Strait of Hormuz: one is about Macron's interview and views, while the other reports on Trump rejecting an Iranian proposal to reopen the strait.”
BBC News
Hedges 1 of 19 claims Outlet record 68/100
“The articles describe different aspects of negotiations and reactions to the Strait of Hormuz situation involving Macron and Trump, but do not report on the exact same incident at the same time.”
The Guardian
Hedges 5 of 39 claims Outlet record 66/100
“The articles describe different aspects of the Hormuz Strait situation but do not clearly refer to the same specific incident or meeting.”
The Guardian
Hedges 3 of 24 claims Outlet record 66/100
“The articles discuss different meetings and figures related to the Strait of Hormuz: Macron's interview with ABC News about his meeting with Trump, versus Miliband's meeting with Iran’s foreign minister.”
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Meredith Deliso
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Macron PERSON · 16× Trump PERSON · 10× Muir PERSON · 8× Ukraine GPE · 6× French NORP · 5× Russia GPE · 5× David Muir PERSON · 3× U.S. GPE · 3× ABC News' ORG · 2× European NORP · 2×

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Macron added "But when you want to engage people, you strategize with them, and you ask them before launching a war, and we decided not to join this war because we considered, and I still consider, it was not the right option." Russia-Ukraine: Macron says he has been able to 'convince' Trump With Macron warning about intensifying Russian threats towards Europe, Muir asked whether he believed Russian President Vladimir Putin when he said Russia has "no aggressive intentions.
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🔮 When asked whether that was a "blind spot" for Trump, Macron responded "I will not here blame anybody.

Claims (47 extracted, 1 hedged)

Macron tells ABC News' David Muir: 'Hormuz Strait was probably underestimated' asserted
Strait → tell → Muir
The French president sat down with David Muir for an exclusive interview. asserted
president → sit → interview
In a wide-ranging exclusive interview with ABC News' David Muir, French President Emmanuel Macron said the "main objective" of his meeting with President Donald Trump on Monday was "to find the right deal in order to open" the Strait of Hormuz and address the escalating global energy crisis that has caused the price of gas, diesel and jet fuel to spike. asserted
price → range → gas
Macron told Muir that when the war started, "the Iranian regime discovered they had this card in their hands," in their ability to close the strait. asserted
they → tell → strait
When asked whether that was a "blind spot" for Trump, Macron responded "I will not here blame anybody. asserted
I → ask → anybody
I think the U.S -- I mean, your country -- is the one able to fix this issue, and we need you." asserted
we → think → you
He added that the situation with the strait "was probably underestimated, and today we have to fix this issue." asserted
we → add → issue
When Muir asked the French president whether he would offer up his nation's military to help reopen the strait, Macron replied, "I don't want to engage in a confrontation with any country, but we are ready to be more engaged in order to protect some capacities in order to make this transit possible, yes." asserted
transit → ask → order
Macron also criticized the decision to go to war in the first place, saying "Having a regime change by bombing a country is not something I think feasible." asserted
I → criticize → country
He added, "And for me, it's not a good option, because it doesn't work. asserted
it → add → me
And we did this mistake several times in the past decades." asserted
we → do → decades
Responding to Trump's complaints that "The U.S. is spending hundreds of billions of dollars, and [European allies] are not there for us," Macron told Muir France respects the U.S. and considers itself a "good ally." asserted
itself → respond → U.S.
Macron added "But when you want to engage people, you strategize with them, and you ask them before launching a war, and we decided not to join this war because we considered, and I still consider, it was not the right option." Russia-Ukraine: Macron says he has been able to 'convince' Trump With Macron warning about intensifying Russian threats towards Europe, Muir asked whether he believed Russian President Vladimir Putin when he said Russia has "no aggressive intentions. asserted
Russia → add → intentions
"No," Macron responded. asserted
Macron → respond → ?
"I don't buy when President Putin say years ago he wanted peace and make peace. asserted
he → buy → peace
And I don't buy when he say he doesn't -- he's not aggressive with -- with Europeans. asserted
he → buy → Europeans
Macron told Muir he had a "very good discussion" with Trump regarding Russia's war in Ukraine while in New York this week. asserted
he → tell → York
"My conviction is that your president has a fair assessment now of the situation, that Russia is not delivering what they wanted, that Ukraine is resisting with a lot of bravery and innovation, and that we have to help them," he said. asserted
he → have → them
Asked about his relationship with Trump, Macron told Muir that he and Trump have a "very good" relationship, and while they sometimes disagree, "we have always been extremely frank to each other." asserted
we → ask → other
The French president said he believes Ukraine is an area where he has been able to "convince" Trump. asserted
he → say → Trump
"I think on Ukraine we worked very hard, a few of us," he said. asserted
he → think → us
"I hope we change his mind. asserted
we → hope → mind
And the fact that he got the conviction that Russia was overrated." asserted
Russia → get → conviction
Macron on Trump’s 'strange' social media map: 'Let's not create new conflicts' asserted
's → let → conflicts
During the interview Tuesday, Muir asked Macron about Trump's recent social media post showing a map with the U.S. flag sprawling across North America, including French territories off the coast of Canada. asserted
Muir → ask → Canada
"When asked about the map, you said, "People have strange ideas. asserted
People → ask → ideas
They say strange things." asserted
They → say → things
Did you tell President Trump you thought it was strange?" Muir asked Macron. asserted
Muir → tell → Macron
"Yes, several times," Macron responded. asserted
Macron → respond → ?
We have a war in Ukraine which is existential for the European security. asserted
which → have → security
We have war in the Middle East ... asserted
We → have → East
We have AI and all this technological race to, not to fix, but to coordinate and make sure that there is not a race to the worst between China and the U.S ... asserted
is → have → China
.We have sufficient topics to be fixed. asserted
.We → have → ?
Let's not create new conflicts and new tensions asserted
's → create → conflicts
," Macron told Muir. asserted
Macron → tell → Muir
And as Trump calls AI fears a "hoax," Macron said he takes concerns that AI could pose a significant threat to humanity "very seriously. uncertain
AI → call → humanity
" "This is why we have to make it totally clear and to have visibility, cooperation, and build new regulation on these consequences," Macron told Muir, while calling for a global discussion on the rapidly developing technology. asserted
Macron → have → technology
"I think we should make a distinction between a pause for the frontier model and innovation and how precisely to be efficient regarding the misuses. ... asserted
we → think → misuses
It should not be just the decision of the U.S. government," he said. asserted
he → say → government
"It's a necessity to have a proper discussion between [the] U.S., China, Europe, and the rest of the world ... to deal with AI excesses and with AI risks for our economies and national securities. asserted
It → have → economies
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