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How The U.S. Racked Up Its $40 Trillion Debt

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Goldberg, J., Hayes, S., Williamson, K. D., & Warren, M. (2026, August 25). How The U.S. Racked Up Its $40 Trillion Debt. The Dispatch. https://thedispatch.com/podcast/dispatch-podcast/how-the-u-s-racked-up-its-40-trillion-debt/

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The Dispatch · collected 2026-08-25 · by Jonah Goldberg, Steve Hayes, Kevin D. Williamson, Michael Warren

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The US national debt has reached $40 trillion, according to recent news. The article discusses the issue with a panel of experts from the Dispatch, including Jonah Goldberg and Kevin Williamson. The key aspect is that entitlement spending is cited as one factor contributing to the country's debt problem. In terms of numbers, the specific figure mentioned is $40 trillion, which represents the current national debt level.
Written by AI on 2026-08-25, from this article's own text only (the story summary below draws on all the coverage).

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The US has surpassed $40 trillion in national debt for the first time, according to the US Treasury Department. This milestone marks 20 years of government spending that grew under both President Donald Trump and President Joe Biden. During Trump's first term, he approved $8.4 trillion worth of debt, while Biden approved $4.3 trillion worth of debt. The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates that the government has added $1.8 trillion to its debt in the current fiscal year alone. As a result, government watchdog groups had anticipated for weeks that the US would surpass the $40 trillion threshold after it reached $39 trillion in March.

The rapid growth of national debt has raised concerns among economists and politicians about the country's economic future. Some experts warn that a loss of confidence in the US government could lead to higher interest rates, inflation, and even bankruptcy. In response to the growing debt, the Treasury Department recently announced $5 billion in bond buybacks to calm investors, but this move has been criticized as merely treating symptoms rather than addressing the underlying problem.

The national debt is projected to continue growing in the coming years, with some estimates suggesting that it could reach $50 trillion by 2030. This has significant implications for the country's economic stability and ability to fund social programs and infrastructure projects.

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Narrative

On today's roundtable, we'll discuss the US national debt hitting 40 10000000000 dollars, how we got here, who's to blame, and the prospect of growing our way out of our debt problem, or as Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent would have it, growing our way out of our debt problem with tariffs.
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🔮 Steve Hayes is joined by Jonah Goldberg, Kevin Williamson, and Mike Warren to discuss the U.S. crossing the $40 trillion debt threshold and the prospect of “growing our way out of it.”
2026-08-25 · The Dispatch
How The U.S. Racked Up Its $40 Trillion Debt · assertive framing

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Steve Hayes is joined by Jonah Goldberg, Kevin Williamson, and Mike Warren to discuss the U.S. crossing the $40 trillion debt threshold and the prospect of “growing our way out of it.” asserted
U.S. → join → it
The Agenda: —Kevin explains how we got here —Entitlement spending —What would Paul Ryan do —The DOGE effort —Growing our way out of debt —NWYT: Adulthood disappointments Show notes: [intro music] asserted
Ryan → explain → debt
On today's roundtable, we'll discuss the US national debt hitting 40 10000000000 dollars, how we got here, who's to blame, and the prospect of growing our way out of our debt problem, or as Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent would have it, growing our way out of our debt problem with tariffs. asserted
Bessent → discuss → tariffs
I'm joined today by the Dispatch's Editor-in-chief, Jonah Goldberg, National Correspondent Kevin Williamson, and Politics Editor Mike Warren. asserted
I → join → chief
Let's dive right in. asserted
's → let → ?
We had the unpleasant news last week that the United States had passed 40 10000000000 dollars in debt threshold. asserted
States → have → threshold
We seem to be passing these huge thresholds, maybe not the round even numbers like 40 10000000000 dollars, but the new 1000000000, we seem to be passing these more regularly at a faster cadence these days. asserted
we → seem → cadence
We talk about debt and deficits on this podcast pretty regularly, but I thought it was worth really trying to understand where we are and how we got here and what, if any, possible solutions there are, and if there are not good solutions, where this is headed in this conversation today. asserted
this → talk → conversation
So let me start with you, Kevin. asserted
me → let → you
You wrote today about debt and deficits. asserted
You → write → debt
We're recording Monday morning. asserted
We → record → ?
You wrote last week about the tragedy of US debt. asserted
You → write → debt
Can you give us in a, a big picture, sort of talk to me like I'm a 3rd grader trying to understand why the United States has 40 10000000000 dollars in debt. asserted
States → give → debt
How did we get to this point? asserted
we → get → point
Well, because we spent our allowance, if you're a third grader. asserted
you → spend → allowance
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